ATO veterans now developers

Team life DEC 7, 2020

Maksym Kozlov and Stanislav Kozar, programmers of an IT company from Mukachevo, told Ukrinform this story of successful socialization. Both are related to the armed defense of the Motherland: Maksym is a border guard, Stanislav is a conscript of the National Guard. Both were in anti-terrorist operation and saw a lot. But we are talking not only about the events of that time, but also about one of the areas where the military people with endurance and discipline, can find themselves after military service. The guys convince that every ATO participant can become an IT person - the main thing here is not higher mathematics, but the desire to move forward.


We start the conversation with men, of course, with memories of the service.

- My stay in the army was not a choice of profession. It was 2014, and I didn't want to stand aside, so I went to serve. At that time, I had already graduated a university and six months worked in a bank, - says Stanislav Kozar. - We served in Donetsk. Our base 3023 was located in the city, in the Kuibyshev district. These were internal troops, we had the task of protecting a particularly important object - warehouses with TNT reserves.

In June, our unit was rapt. At that time, I was on duty at the facility, near the warehouses. As they later said, the ""green men"" came, talked to the commander and said that they could bring his family at any time, put them to his knees in front of him and kill - well, or he hands over the base. When we arrived from protection of object - the Russian flag already hung on a base. I don't know who was there at that time - the so-called ""militias"" or the Russian military. Probably, the first were executors, the second commanded process. I was lucky that one of my friends had an aunt in Donetsk. She brought us civilian clothes, because in uniform we would not have gone far: the city was already patrolled by militants at that time. So we were able to leave. I served the rest of my term in Lviv. Then
there was no such thing as the expiration of the term, because there was no new conscription. And it turned out that instead of 9 months I served 19, - says Stanislav Kozar.


- My story is simpler: my parents worked in the military. As a child, I traveled half the world, once even lived in Tajikistan. During the
service I also lived in different regions of Ukraine, but my parents settled down, and I am here in Mukachevo, - says Maksym Kozlov.
He is a border guard, lieutenant colonel of the State Border Guard Service, and in the events of 2014 he took part in the border service.

- It was Luhansk region, Krasna Talivka, Stanychno-Luhansk district. At that time we had not yet recovered from the Crimea - and it
immediately ignited on the eastern border, some incomprehensible movements and actions began, - Kozlov recalls. - On the basis of the Western Regional Department of the SBGS, two groups were formed - the third and seventh. And when it was necessary to change them once again on rotation, it turned out that there was no one. It turned out that I became a lieutenant colonel and became
the commander of a machine-gun platoon. Those guys from the third group I trained before their departure to the East. And then it turned out that I went to change them. We got there in July, just in the midst of the Hail shelling. To be honest, we were in such a mood that we were about to get them out of there and everything would calm down. But in two months it became clear that it won’t happen.

We left by rotation on the 10th of August, and in the 20s we already had Ilovaisk. And it was already clear that idea about getting enemies out won’t become real. I saw Muscovites chasing us from the other side, I was constantly under fire. Once our camp burned down, it's good that the documents remained. We were changed quite quickly, because we lived in a young pine forest, on the so-called ""zero"" - the position that is constantly under fire. After us, no one went there. Well, because it was really impossible to stand: only something will be rebuilt - and immediately demolished. The last three days in the 40-degree heat we were without water. I have a photo from that time - we are all black with soot. But left normally. I think this is because we had military personnel, that is: an order, execution, no amateurism. It is also very important: we did not drink. They counted the seconds from the shot to the detonation of the
projectile, then the team ran and extinguished. If there was no such self-organization and discipline, we would burn alive there! And so we returned without losses. I served in the SBGS until 2019, and then retired from the military. There were thoughts that in 50 years nobody needs you any more, - and I didn't want to sit on pension and to fish. Therefore, I decided to retrain.


- Programming was your version of socialization, wasn’t it? The only choice was what to do next?

- Two years before retirement, I decided that I would go to the IT sector, - says Maksym Kozlov. - And I started preparing in advance. I
had some skills in working with programming languages, but decided that I needed to know something other than Pascal. Studied on the online platform Python and JavaScript. I watched lectures, did homework. But after the courses I realized that it's all fine, but we in Mukachevo do not work with it, so I started studying PHP. I wonder why they chose programming. After all, Stas is an
economist, Maksym is a military, it was possible for the first to work in a bank or to teach, for example ...

- Before serving in the army, I worked as an economist in a bank, - says Stanislav. - But I realized that the money I earned there is not
enough for life. A friend advised to try programming – he said to take courses at Prometheus (Ukrainian platform for free online courses at the university level. - Ed.), If you like it, it will be very good. It was an online course at Harvard University. At that time, I didn't even have a computer to study - I asked my parents to buy it for me. Later I took another course in Uzhgorod. It was quite
difficult for me, an unprepared person, to plunge into it. But then in the list on Prometheus I found a Mukachevo company that gave full-time programming courses. I was surprised that we have it in town. I applied that I needed the help of an offline group. So then
I stayed to work in this company. It's been four years now.

- My first education is in engineering, but it is far from programming. But I was interested in programming languages, I knew Delphi, I
used it in work in SBGS - created databases, it helped me. Well, according to the PHP language, I also started courses at a Mukachevo company. I was satisfied with it, because I didn't have to go anywhere from the city and there was a prospect of work. The courses ended in March, when I still had 4 months to serve. However, I received the order on August 2, and on the 7th I was hired as a programmer. I never retired, - laughs Maxim Kozlov.


- Was the motivation internal? After all, they say that it is difficult to socialize after serving in the army, they say, stress, injuries affect, post-traumatic syndrome ...

- Well, it's too early for the syndrome. He catches up with a person in 7 years, the Americans investigated, - says Maksym. - As a rule, it catches up when a person is not socialized. Even if there are payments and a pension, but there is nothing to do - a person begins to resort to memories, and then it covers you up. I will tell you from my experience that you try not to go too deep into those memories. The most interesting thing is that I was not scared there. But other times when you start analyzing, you think: well, damn, how did I get out of there alive? ...

- As for me, there is simply an understanding: that it was there, and here you have to live with other concepts. No one provides you anything and does not manage you: you set yourself tasks and perform them yourself. Well, you should be looking for
means to do so, - says Stanislav. - Everyone has their own notion of achievements, a certain standard of living, comfort - and everyone understands that he must make an effort. And then you just choose your options. Mine was like this. It takes effort to learn a programming language in half a year and start working in this direction, to earn money. But I am satisfied with my choice. And I also recommend it to others. Even if it doesn't work or you don't work with it, it will still help you better understand the modern world of

- And I will tell you that free and paid courses, in principle, give the same level of knowledge for beginners, so it makes no sense
to spend on training at first, - advises Maksym.


- Does the fact that you are a military man, that you are people of a certain type, who have notions of discipline, structure, hierarchy, help in the work of a programmer? Because IT people are people of a slightly opposite formation, freer, do not recognize frameworks and schedules, etc ...

- I always had a daily routine, even before the army, - says Stanislav Kozar. - Well and 19 months of service still on inertia for some time kept in a tone. Everything has changed only now, when we have a 2-month-old baby at home who does not allow you to build any schedules (laughs).

- I said that I grew up in a military family, so I do not imagine myself out of discipline, - says Maksym. - Besides, the wife now and
further works in SBGS, children in the morning need to be taken to schools – it won’t work without a mode here, even on retirement. My principle is: I have two hands, two eyes and one head. And I do what I can with them - I devote myself 100%. So far, I have not been reported in the service or now in the field of IT that I did something wrong. Even if it looks like that - well, anything can happen, we are all human, sometimes we are wrong - I know that I did my best, it just didn't work out, maybe.

- Apart from you, there are no more military programmers in the state?

- Why, there is, - Stas answers.

- So you are no exception in Mukachevo?

- ""No, no exceptions,"" he says. - There are people who graduated from military departments at the university with the rank of junior
lieutenants. There is a conscript - also from the SBGS, by the way.

- And there is one more military man who was also in JFO, near Mariupol they stood. He works as our system administrator, - adds Maxim.

- Then you have a whole team!

- Yes, we only interact a little, because now we work remotely, after all, and in different projects.

- Do you advise your colleagues to join the IT world after the army?

- I was asked about the work by several people, because of a good salary, teamwork, socialization, again, - says Maksym. - But I advise everyone to first sit at home and take online courses. Try and then a month later again you address me - I will give you more recommendations. So far, no one has applied after such advice (laughs).

- A person should be interested himself, there is no point in agitating here, except to advise or suggest, as I was once told, - says
Stas. - But people often ask. First of all, I recommend a course on Prometheus. First of all, I am interested in Maksym Kozlov’s opinion, whether veterans' organizations are invited to tell their story as an example to others, thus hinting at how and where to move after the Armed Forces.

- You see, if a person who resigned from the army has a goal, he will achieve it in any case. One wants to be a tennis coach, another
has created his own security company - I have such acquaintances, they wanted to find themselves and found. And the one who does not want, or says that he must be provided by the country - whatever you give him, everything will be wrong. That is why I am, of course, wary of such lectures in veterans' organizations. But if I am asked where I work, I am proud. Why with pride?
Because when I resigned, so many ""demotivators"" went around me! “But where will you go now? Who needs you there? Nothing will come out of it! ” Maybe it's all so bad for them that I am happy now, - Kozlov laughs.

Finally, he notes that you don't need any special skills or knowledge to become a programmer today. Integrals are not calculated here, he says, there is no higher mathematics here. School math, formal logic and syntax are all you need to get started. Well, and desire. This is the most important thing.

Tatiana Kohutich, Uzhhorod.

Photos from the personal archives of Maxim Kozlov and Stanislav Kozar

Transoftgroup signed a Memorandum of Cooperation with Uzhhorod National University

PR OCT 23, 2020

Transoftgroup and Uzhhorod National University signed a Memorandum of Cooperation in the field of research, education and innovation, aimed at creating favorable conditions for the development of IT education in Ukraine and improving the national infrastructure.

The memorandum provides for the implementation of projects related to the development of information and telecommunications technologies in Ukraine, as well as providing assistance to UzhNU students in internships and internships in the company.

The meeting, which preceded the signing of the memorandum, was attended by: authorized persons of Transoftgroup - Director Igor Kril, Deputy Director Victor Menzul and Head of MAGENTO-Programming Oleg Pastukh and representatives of Uzhgorod National University - Vice-Rector for Research and Teaching Igor Korol Mykhailo Povidaychyk of the Faculty of Mathematics and Digital Technologies and Myroslav Hleben, Associate Professor of the Department of Systems Analysis and Optimization Theory.

By joining the support of higher education, in the future it is also planned to develop together the university's practical training courses studying PHP and Magento and involving the company's specialists in the training of students.

​From a statesman to an IT specialist: the story that in the field of IT there is a place for everyone.

Team life SEP 23, 2020

From civil servant to IT specialist: the story that in the field of IT there will be a place for everyone.

Everyone at least once thought about how to drastically change their lives and start doing something completely different than before. And the field of information technologies often comes to mind - because it is one of the most promising industries in Ukraine, which is developing very rapidly.

Volodymyr is a frontend developer. In simple language - it creates the entire visual part of the site, which we see with you, the users. Menus, buttons, pictures that you see on the site - all this is created by frontend-developers. But before becoming a programmer, Vladimir was a civil servant. He graduated from law school, worked in the specialty… and at some point decided to change his life. We are talking to Volodymyr Omelyanyuk, a TransoftGroup programmer, about stereotypes, personal motivation and, without exaggeration, equal opportunities for everyone.

"It's normal to change jobs and look for a better place for yourself. Even if it is cardinal. "

- Why did you decide to change the type of activity?

- At some point I realized that the civil service is not a story about me. I have a lot of lawyers I know, but few of them are in the financial condition I would like to be in. You can reach great heights here, of course, but it's much harder, as for me. Plus, I've been playing sports all my life and wanted to try myself as a coach, to open a gym. I tried, I had a lot of clients, but again I felt that it was not mine: in this case you have to do only sports and nothing more. Spend all your time on this. It's not about me either.

- Wasn't it scary to dare to make such cardinal changes?

- This is such an archaism - to be afraid to change jobs - and it should be abandoned. In the West, it is normal practice to change jobs. You are an employee, you don't owe anyone anything. At some point, people break up, and that's normal. I didn't come to IT right away either. I went to another company, trained for a month and a half - and left. There I was offered a job that I did not want to do: it limited my opportunities in the future, that is, the maximum that I could achieve in that company was not my option. So I left. And about half a year later I got here, in TransoftGroup.

"To make a fortune ", you need to work hard and constantly improve."

- There is a stereotype that you should just go to IT - and you will immediately start earning a lot. What do you think about it?

- People tend not to be so much jealous as not to delve deeply into the essence of the issue. "Someone told me that they get a lot of money there, so I'll go there too," - maybe there is, I do not rule out this possibility. But for the most part, it takes a lot of work to achieve something - both in terms of salary and in terms of the work itself.

- How did it happen in your case? How did you study?

- I studied online. 3-4 hours every day. And it's easier than I would study for a few months, but 10 hours a day. This is difficult because you do not perceive so much information at once. It's also too much of a burden for me. It is necessary that knowledge is assimilated, "settled" in the head. But studying for so long is also a matter of motivation. I studied for more than a year, about a year and three months. The same, with a good mentor, you can learn in six months. It's not as simple as it may seem at first glance. I have completed one part of the course, the second, the third… and all this knowledge needs to be maintained to see the whole picture so that you can move on. In our case, "further" is the good start, where someone will hire you, will be ready to teach, to help. I am lucky with TransoftGroup in this regard.

"There is an opportunity to make money here at home. But our people do not want to develop. "

- How do you assess yourself now? Have you changed a lot during the time you work here?

- I have been working here for a year and a half and I think I have learned a lot. If you compare how I came here in terms of knowledge and skills and who I am now, the difference is fundamental. And I think everyone does. In addition, teamwork is always a little stimulating - you will be prompted, helped, guided. We have a lot of people working on the website. This is a huge company for the Transcarpathian market. But we still lack specialists. It is easier for many to go abroad to earn money.

- What is the reason for this, the lack of qualified personnel?

- People do not like to work with their brains, do not like to try for the future. And the biggest disadvantage of many is that many do not like to learn. Why do it, if I already know something? But you need to learn, improve if you want to achieve more. Many of my acquaintances have tried - half of them drop out at the stage just to read about it. Another 80 percent is eliminated during the training period. In the end, there are about 10 percent who actually go into this field and stay, becoming good professionals. At the same time, it is not those who are the smartest, but those who are the most purposeful and persistent. Of course, talent plays a role, but an important role is played by how much you want to work in IT and what you are ready to do. I like to compare life with sports. In sports like: you came - you plow - you get the result. The same here. Work hard, persistently - and there will be a result.
What to do to those who think about the field of IT, but can not dare?

- When the first attempt to go into the IT sector failed, there was no desire to give up?

- The first time I tried to work in IT, I was very inspired, I was ready to turn the mountains and break the computer in half (laughs, - ed.), But my hopes did not come true, my hands almost dropped. I didn't do anything for two weeks, I couldn't gather, I was morally broken. But up to a month - and I went to study further. Everyone has such a fear at the start, I think.

- What advice would you give to those who also want to change their activities but are hesitant?

- First, do not hesitate. Secondly, perseverance, development, dedication - these should be your main companions. third, read who does what. And not only among programmers. There are a lot of options. You can be a great lawyer in an IT company. A good manager, manager. English teacher. Do your favorite thing, but for a salary, an order of magnitude higher than outside this area, and in good, comfortable, modern conditions. That is, it is not necessary to follow the so-called "technical path" - there will be a place for everyone.

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